Pee Wee
2:06 Thu Jan 18
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Most of the ones that played the other night have been out on loan quite a bit so difficult to judge them on seeing the U23's play.
I agree they should be given a chance, I just wish it'd be done in a way that gives them the best chance of succeeding, which I don't think has been the way we have being doing it for quite some time.
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Razzle
2:00 Thu Jan 18
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Oxford back from injury...
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Takashi Miike
1:58 Thu Jan 18
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I've watched the U23s quite a bit this past two years, obviously a big step up but they play decent football, arguably much better than the first team. I'm not saying replace the whole first team with the u23s but there are a number I think should be persevered with, especially with an owner like ours who's clearly decided to spend the bare minimum on new recruits
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El Scorchio
1:47 Thu Jan 18
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I'm basing this purely on the Shrewsbury games, by the way.
I'd have expected Oxford to have performed very well against a team of this level and he didn't at all.
Raw deal for Martinez up against those centre halves but he really tried.
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El Scorchio
1:46 Thu Jan 18
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Burke- jury out
Cullen- promising
Oxford- putting in no effort by the looks of it. Embarrassing to be yanked off the pitch in that game with his supposed talent.
Martinez- willing but didn't get much joy. Jury out.
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Pee Wee
1:35 Thu Jan 18
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I'm not saying you're wrong Miike, but how often have you seen them play to come up with that conclusion?
Also, I assume you think Rice is decent too?
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Takashi Miike
1:28 Thu Jan 18
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I like Burke, the rest are average but then so are many of our high earning senior players so I think they could quite easily perform the same mediocre performances on a lot less money
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ironsofcanada
1:20 Thu Jan 18
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jack flash 1:19 Thu Jan 18
I need to learn to make shorter posts I guess.
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jack flash
1:19 Thu Jan 18
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AKA ERNIE 11:32 ~
I think you've called that exactly right
Apart from Declan Rice, who as far as I'm concerned at least, has already made the grade & more, Cullen looks a good prospect who I'm sure will do ok, given more game time
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Eggbert Nobacon
12:57 Thu Jan 18
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ioc
would make sense, see Samuelsen going on loan yesterday which again makes sense as he's behind both Holland and Hacksa it seems
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ironsofcanada
12:43 Thu Jan 18
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Eggbert Nobacon 12:33 Thu Jan 18
Hopefully it means Moyes has plans for him and he wanted to play the players he was thinking of sending away (Rice did not play the second game, for instance.)
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Trevor B
12:40 Thu Jan 18
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Do you think that any player is told not to make mistakes?
I would imagine they were just being overly cautious, knowing that their first team involvement probably hinged on decent performances, and certainly not looking our of their depth and nervous.
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BRANDED
12:39 Thu Jan 18
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My impression is they seem to have to think before acting. In this short process of time they've lost the initiative. When Nobes came on I remember him swiftly first touching a ball out left to Arthur and it moved the whole play really quickly. I would suggest this is an issue with all average football of course but it was very clear with these lads.
I assume they were told not to make a mistake which means a bit more care is probably taken?
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ironsofcanada
12:38 Thu Jan 18
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ludo21 12:32 Thu Jan 18
That has been a decent approach under Moyes.
That said, I don't think Burke did enough for me to say he would not just sit and he was getting more games than Cullen at Bolton.
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ludo21
12:33 Thu Jan 18
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*same* treatment NOT sale!
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Eggbert Nobacon
12:33 Thu Jan 18
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Far Cough 11:56 Thu Jan 18
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Yeah, I'd like to see more of Haksabanovic
agree thought he was really good against Bolton earlier in season
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Pee Wee
12:33 Thu Jan 18
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HairyHammer 12:27 Thu Jan 18
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With respect in the second game the seniors were just as average for 70 minutes.
Yep - but playing with inexperienced kids can't help.
It's been this way for far too long and a big reason I believe as to why we haven't seen any kids break through since Tomkins?
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ludo21
12:32 Thu Jan 18
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Exactly what they have done with Declan Rice and he has been able to show what he can do.
Would like to see Burke & Cullen kept and given the sale treatment.
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Far Cough
12:31 Thu Jan 18
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HairyHammer, there are two Reeces you nobber
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ironsofcanada
12:31 Thu Jan 18
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Pee Wee 12:23 Thu Jan 18
Agree
That said, pretty hard to do if you are looking at relegation or even at the other end, looking a Europe. We have been doing one of the two for good parts of the last three seasons.
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HairyHammer
12:27 Thu Jan 18
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With respect in the second game the seniors were just as average for 70 minutes.
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